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Answer by pan tau for [Wiki] Features missing before I would recommend Jolla...

there is no reason why not recommend jolla to NON-techies i did recommend jolla to one non-techie partner 55+ years who was bored by WP or newer iOS and scared by Android, he is very happy Jolla user...

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Answer by NuklearFart for [Wiki] Features missing before I would recommend...

https://together.jolla.com/question/27207/wiki-which-features-do-you-crave-and-would-like-to-know-its-roadmap-status-on/?answer=58643#post-id-58643 This are some things I posted somewhere else and I...

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Comment by rod

I'd also like to add a calendar cover that shows more than the current day like it has been on the n900.

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Answer by Baswat for [Wiki] Features missing before I would recommend Jolla...

This are missing for me to recommend a Jolla to others.... Gallery folder with date... Different ringtone for contacts... copy numbers from call list... 3G videocall... kalender where month and week...

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Comment by cquence

@zlatko thanks I haven't noticed the comments on this thread.

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Comment by zlatko

About IMAP IDLE - it can be already activated via terminal, check this thread: https://together.jolla.com/question/493/imap-idle-imap-push-for-the-e-mail-app/. Works quite well, only issue is keepalive...

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Answer by cquence for [Wiki] Features missing before I would recommend Jolla...

The showstoppers at the moment in my opinion are the following: 1. Connection Stability (switching between WiFi/Mobile Data *needs* to be reliable) this includes the deep sleep behaviour which can have...

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Answer by piwostar for [Wiki] Features missing before I would recommend Jolla...

I would love to have integrated encrytion, maybe over gpg. especially for e-mail. security is a hot topic these days and in my opinion it is no alternative to use android apps all the time. i think...

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Comment by avdwoude

Could you provide links to questions on Together for each individual item, so I can add them to the list?

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Answer by Nirkus for [Wiki] Features missing before I would recommend Jolla...

* activate 4G + CSFB (#2135) -- "LTE" is part of the device tech specs * support different types of reminders as offered by e.g. Google Calender * smaller, more smooth hardware * thread-view for email...

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Comment by avdwoude

@bilgy_no1 I've added the question to the list. Thanks!

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Comment by bilgy_no1

Added a question on the notifications system: https://together.jolla.com/question/36284/feature-request-notifications-settings-white-list/

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Comment by bilgy_no1

https://together.jolla.com/question/1029/replace-default-twitterfacebook-behaviour/ This is about assigning apps to be opened when tapping a notification. Couldn't find something about the other part...

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Comment by bilgy_no1

Not sure, but I figure this would have been reported before? The search function on Together doesn't always show the correct threads.

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Comment by avdwoude

Is there an existing question on this that I can add to the list?

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Answer by bilgy_no1 for [Wiki] Features missing before I would recommend...

I think Jolla still needs to improve the way notifications work. E.g. the Mitakuuluu app needs to be started manually (or with a special app) before you can receive notifications. Same thing with...

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Comment by avdwoude

@giacomo: I couldn't agree more. More native apps that fill the gap between what Jolla is now and what is commonly expected will go a long way for many users.

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Comment by peter-berlin

@giacomo i agree, as long as there are no jolla native apps, we (the non-techies) should have some alternatives.

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Comment by Giacomo Di Giacomo

We are not talking about what I should expect it to be. The question is, what should Jolla have to be suitable for non-techies? The answer is, it must be similar to something widely available, and...

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Comment by 2Ti

I disagree. That's like buying milk and then being upset that it isn't Coca Cola(TM). Jolla is not Android and you shouldn't expect it to be.

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Answer by Giacomo Di Giacomo for [Wiki] Features missing before I would...

Since Sailfish OS is now very stable, the only real thing for normal users is that their phone behaves like other phones, which pretty much means Google Play and Google Services. Normal users can't and...

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Comment by molan

I'm also against having Google on my phone (and any unnessecary background services). Google Play Services are already annoying enough on Android devices... Most Android apps work well and you'll find...

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Comment by Richie Cotton

Access to Google Play would be nice, but it is probably contractually impossible for Jolla. Page 3 of this Ars Technica article...

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Comment by orjans

avdwoude, I will tell them, but I fear it will only reach one person in support and end up in the trash. I do have these things installed, mind you, getting Play onto Jolla was fairly easy, but it is...

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Comment by avdwoude

Another approach is to let your Bank or carrier know that you want their app but can't install it because it is only on Play store. Make them aware it is important for at least some of their customers...

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Comment by orjans

2Ti, I agree, Google is something to get away from, but still there's a handful of apps that I consider essentials and can only be gotten through Play. The question was what prevents me from...

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Comment by 2Ti

I disagree. Play should definitely not come pre installed on the phone. One major reason for getting a Jolla phone is get away from Google. Having all the Google Services pre installed there would...

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Answer by orjans for [Wiki] Features missing before I would recommend Jolla...

Different app store, preferably Play. Yandex just doesn't cut it, sadly. The big apps aren't a problem, and often have native support, but for my part both banking and checking how much data usage I...

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Comment by LVPVS

Seriously, people! Time to wake up! If @vattuvarg's answer does not ring a bell, then what would? Yes, I am eagerly waiting for the next update every month. Every month. Yes, it is a pain to me to have...

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Comment by andreibechet

Yes please to "smaller phones"! Great reply

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Comment by Nirkus

Agree, while not all parts of my Jolla phone are open source (yet?), it is the most open plattform of those I know about and consider usable. When people ask me for a smartphone that will just work and...

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Comment by kodiak

I agree with a smaller device. Currently, I assume, most of Jolla customers are male and techie. Males sre used to carry the mobile in pockets. This mobile is a bit to big, and its edges to hard to...

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Comment by avdwoude

Brilliant answer! I couldn't agree more. I should really start advertising that aspect of the Jolla phone more to my friends.

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Comment by foss4ever

The Best Answer I've read in this thread.. ;)

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Comment by avdwoude

@Giacomo: Very true too. No interface is intuitive until you have learned to use it. And Jolla is different, hence it takes time to learn it. Once learned... everything else feels 'weird'. :-D

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Comment by Giacomo Di Giacomo

I don't agree. It's not weird, it's just different, and when you start from scratch it's more intuitive than other UIs. Now that I am used to Sailfish, I keep swiping Android and Symbian phones.

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Comment by avdwoude

@nodevel Please add comments to the relevant question instead of here. This question is just an overview of issues and not meant for discussion on the individual issues.

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Comment by nodevel

I always hated the need to disable the reminder every time I create new events on my N900, so please make this optional :)

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Comment by dthierbach

There's a technical reason you can't just make the SD card available as an USB bulk storage device, as convenient as that would be: It's already mounted inside Jolla, and if you'd export it as it is,...

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Comment by thomas

yes, I agree. As long as CalDAV and CardDAV are not supported, there is only very limited use of a Jolla phone (very sad, that the Jolla officials don't see that, but they won't survive, if they don't...

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Comment by ymb

yep, came back for me as well :)

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Comment by ortylp

the tutorial app seems to appeared in march update again

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Comment by dthierbach

VPN support shouldn't be so difficult to do if you really want it (which means you do it yourself, of course). Crosscompiling openvpn is probably the easy part, the most work would be to write an app...

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Comment by yuri

@avdwoude "sim toolkit" is in all other phones (it's also present in 20€ phones) ; "record calls" can be installed on other smartphones as third party application, but on jolla it's better to be a...

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Comment by avdwoude

@yuri I have added "Sim Toolkit" to the list. Let's hope somebody implements a call-recorder app. I had it on the N9, which was useful at least once.

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Comment by 2Ti

@avdwoude the USB file transfer issue had not been fixed in 1.0.4.20 for Macs. iPhoto just displays an empty sdcard. See the update I made below to my answer.

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Comment by avdwoude

@yuri Would you consider these expected features that are common on other smartphones?

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Comment by Okerampa

Native todo tasks https://together.jolla.com/question/1289/to-dos-tasks-in-native-calendar-app/

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Comment by avdwoude

@2Ti Ah ok. I corrected the entry on the list.

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Comment by yuri

sim toolkit: https://together.jolla.com/question/1235/sim-toolkit/ a red button to record calls: https://together.jolla.com/question/5008/call-recording-app/

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